AttilaTheHun wrote:

soft wizard wrote: ... a few minutes ago, I became the number one-ranked player on the wargear warfare board. I am kind of psyched about this.

Congrats!  This is a big achievement for the #1-played board on the site!

+1  =)

soft wizard wrote:

Unfortunately, unless my next result is a win, I'll be banished back behind that Hugh guy. That jerk. He just sits there resting on his laurels, and I've been chasing him for months. Hah.

First, congratulations! It is a difficult achievement, worthy of praise :)

When I broke through and settled in, the others were in the 2100s, so I thought I'd sit and enjoy it. Less than three months! The glory doesn't last long. Even if you lose some of those games you're in, poloquebec is on the brink too, so I may as well stop resting.

btilly wrote:

soft wizard wrote:

M57 wrote:

Amazingly, almost all of your games were not fogged.  I would have not thought that possible.

 

Huh. I wouldn't have necessarily thought fog made it easier to win (unless you happen to be uniquely good at playing with fog, which I don't believe I am).

It is not that fog makes it easier to win.  It is that fog increases the skill differential.  In non-fogged games people can see what you're doing and gang up on the leader.

I don't know if fog requires more skill to win in all cases.  It may depend on the map and how many players are playing.  In some games, someone can just attack everything and acquire lots of territory and "defend with 1s"and get lucky if everyone else concentrates on other areas.  I think it just depends for each map/player combo.

Not all fog games are truly foggy either - there's a lot of PMing and public calls for help.  Depends again on the map as to how much of an advantage this can be.

Hugh wrote:

soft wizard wrote:

Unfortunately, unless my next result is a win, I'll be banished back behind that Hugh guy. That jerk. He just sits there resting on his laurels, and I've been chasing him for months. Hah.

First, congratulations! It is a difficult achievement, worthy of praise :)

When I broke through and settled in, the others were in the 2100s, so I thought I'd sit and enjoy it. Less than three months! The glory doesn't last long. Even if you lose some of those games you're in, poloquebec is on the brink too, so I may as well stop resting.

Lol, you're under assault Hugh, 'cause I'm coming for Stargear again.  What other maps do you own...  =D

I think he was high on Islands of Kjeldor. ;) - As for fog - fog makes it easier for the player that starts the game in good position to win. If said player can acquire some early bonuses without others (or, at worst, 1 or 2 players) realizing this, it goes a long way towards victory.

Hugh wrote:

soft wizard wrote:

Unfortunately, unless my next result is a win, I'll be banished back behind that Hugh guy. That jerk. He just sits there resting on his laurels, and I've been chasing him for months. Hah.

First, congratulations! It is a difficult achievement, worthy of praise :)

When I broke through and settled in, the others were in the 2100s, so I thought I'd sit and enjoy it. Less than three months! The glory doesn't last long. Even if you lose some of those games you're in, poloquebec is on the brink too, so I may as well stop resting.

Excellent! I look forward to the opportunity to play against you!

Thingol wrote: I think he was high on Islands of Kjeldor. ;) - As for fog - fog makes it easier for the player that starts the game in good position to win. If said player can acquire some early bonuses without others (or, at worst, 1 or 2 players) realizing this, it goes a long way towards victory.

Yeah, based on my experience, if you fog a standard geographic-style map, you decrease the value of skill. I.e., winning is more random. So, if soft wizard is skilled enough to trample Hugh this way, he'd have the greatest advantage in non- or less-foggy versions of the standard map against typical opponents.

Phew -- Hugh overtook me for a bit, but I'm back in the saddle. Bring it, H!

smoke wrote:

Thingol wrote: I think he was high on Islands of Kjeldor. ;) - As for fog - fog makes it easier for the player that starts the game in good position to win. If said player can acquire some early bonuses without others (or, at worst, 1 or 2 players) realizing this, it goes a long way towards victory.

Yeah, based on my experience, if you fog a standard geographic-style map, you decrease the value of skill. I.e., winning is more random. So, if soft wizard is skilled enough to trample Hugh this way, he'd have the greatest advantage in non- or less-foggy versions of the standard map against typical opponents.

This should be a discussion for strategy and tactics.  My impression is that adding some fog creates a luck factor, but also increases the edge that skill gives.

Also known people tend to get targeted.  Fog reduces how much that happens.

And now, we congratulate poloquebec! I was atop yet again before polo took it. I only mention that because I received no praise for taking the spot when I took and for holding it as long as I did :)  It's going to be a revolving door slugfest for a while.

I rain praise upon thee Hugh, and now mention that I had the top spot for about 2 days. Yaaay! 

Hugh wrote:

And now, we congratulate poloquebec! I was atop yet again before polo took it. I only mention that because I received no praise for taking the spot when I took and for holding it as long as I did :)  It's going to be a revolving door slugfest for a while.

People tend to hand out compliments when someone does unexpectedly well.

You've set expectations to a point where holding #1 on the hardest board for a long stretch is not unexpected.  That's kind of amazing.

Congratulations for being such a consistently good player that people consider such amazing things expected from you!

btilly wrote:

Hugh wrote:

And now, we congratulate poloquebec! I was atop yet again before polo took it. I only mention that because I received no praise for taking the spot when I took and for holding it as long as I did :)  It's going to be a revolving door slugfest for a while.

People tend to hand out compliments when someone does unexpectedly well.

You've set expectations to a point where holding #1 on the hardest board for a long stretch is not unexpected.  That's kind of amazing.

Congratulations for being such a consistently good player that people consider such amazing things expected from you!

It's like when LeBron James does a slam dunk or Leo Messi gets voted Player of the Year. :)

Just out of interest, how many games would I have to win in a row to grab the top spot? Are we talking dozens, hundreds, thousands?

Back in the hunt after a long layoff! Top 10!

Aiken Drumn wrote:

Just out of interest, how many games would I have to win in a row to grab the top spot? Are we talking dozens, hundreds, thousands?

Kind of interested in doing this math now.  Let's assume we are talking about WGWF.  You play 10 player games on average, and your opponents have an average ranking of 1100, and you start at 1000.

So your score starts at s(0)=1000

Each time you win, it's now:

s(N+1) = s(N) + 10 * 20 * 1100 / s(N) 

Currently top score is 2959

so we want to find the lowest N where s(N) > 2959.

I put together a spreadsheet so you can play with the #s if you want, but I think you'd need to win 18 games in a row.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19SbjJ8CpJNgfMT6zQVv5bXFgX8i3-_6b2bAHD3dWNYM/edit?usp=sharing

nice

The current top score is... astonishing. Yowza. Far beyond what the top score was a few years ago. What's that player doing?

Winning. Alot.

soft wizard wrote: The current top score is... astonishing. Yowza. Far beyond what the top score was a few years ago. What's that player doing?

That player is basking in his glory and scared shit to play anymore as the only way is down! ;)

But I'd welcome any challenge to knock IR off top!