noticed in this game that when i try the board explorer in the native player i get some weird borders show up. 

when viewing those same territories in the board explorer off the board's info page (edit: or the flash player) they don't appear the same. 

got some screen shots but it could give info away so i don't want to post yet.

I don't think there's such a thing as board explorer in the native.. It's just eh board explorer page. 

http://www.wargear.net/boards/view/Marbles/Board%20Explorer

All looks fine to me.

look again M, open any game in the native player and click the magnifying glass icon.

weathertop wrote:

look again M, open any game in the native player and click the magnifying glass icon.

Cool.. Had no idea.  It does appear to be broken, but from what does change, it looks like it should show the "set-up," which I think is a great feature!  ..but not the opening position, which technically you should be able to get from the history (if allowed - and with fog constraints).

Yeah, I was noticing some issues on Waterloo.

The board explorer from the board page seems to work fine: http://www.wargear.net/boards/view/Battle+of+Waterloo/Board%20Explorer

But if you go to a game and press the magnifying glass it appears to be showing all of the fortify borders with no option to turn them off: http://www.wargear.net/games/player/383111

Also, shouldn't the Initial Setup version just work the same way as the board explorer from the board page?

should, i would guess. but that's what i'm seeing (the dashed view only or fortify or something lines)

The Initial Setup seems to work fine. It does seem to be showing all border types though - that should probably be a configurable option, it's not really a bug but it is a different behaviour to the Flash player.

so it's a 'feature' then ;^)

initial setup in my game link above seems to show all 'current' & "visible" (since it's a fogged game) options for me

weathertop wrote:

so it's a 'feature' then ;^)

 

initial setup in my game link above seems to show all 'current' & "visible" (since it's a fogged game) options for me

Ah so the foggy borders / territories aren't shown even in Initial Setup view?

wait. what?

i'm in a foggy game. when i get into the native player's board explorer
- there is no difference between borders when switching between current and initial setup (all that changes is board image from what i can currently see to an empty board)

- the borders that show up are:
-- immediately adjacent attacks
-- all like-owned 'view/fortify' borders

for example:
-- i can see one lone enemy territory; the explorer shows me immediately adjacent borders

-- i can see empty 'neutral' territory(s);  the explorer shows me the immediately adjacent borders AND all connecting neutral territories

-- i can see fogged territories; the explorer shows me the immediately adjacent borders -which i can't see because of the next piece- AND all connecting fogged territories

also the 'mouse hover' to determine dice advantage on any of these borders does not appear

tom wrote:

It does seem to be showing all border types though - that should probably be a configurable option...

Hey Tom, just wondered if there was any work in the queue on the native player board explorer for:
- adding in the border type buttons
- mouse hover on border arrows to see dice mods

if not that's fine, just need to hop over to normal board page explorer 

I'm looking into the hover over border info.. not sure it will work at this stage!

When you mean border type buttons, what are you after? Specific buttons to limit to Attack / Fortify / View borders etc?

yeah, right now it shows all border types. that can get quite cluttered if it's a fortify to all connected or if there's multiple attacks coming from the same territory (obviously to different territories). 

Added!

http://www.wargear.net/forum/showthread/4020/Native_player_update_-_border_types_added